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Wal-Mart's policy of punishing workers for taking sick leave risks spreading swine flu.

So concludes a new report from the National Labor Committee that finds that employees of the Arkansas-based retail giant -- even its food handlers -- feel they have no choice but to work when they're sick. That's because the company gives workers demerits and deducts pay for staying home when they're sick or caring for sick children.

Said a worker at one Wal-Mart supercenter:

Plenty of girls are coughing their brains out. But they cannot go home because of points. Everyone comes in sick. You can't stay home and God forbid if you leave early.

The report found that the only time the company is removing sick workers from the food section is when they are coughing too loudly or violently -- and then the person is merely transferred to another department rather than being sent home.

Wal-Mart's sick-leave policy conflicts with recommendations for the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which calls on employers to advise workers to be alert for symptoms of flu-like illness and to stay home if they are ill. The CDC also asks employers to allow workers to stay home to care for sick family members.

According to the NLC report, a senior vice president for Wal-Mart sent out a memo nationwide to all employees on preparing for the flu season. It told employees to "cover your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze," "wash your hands regularly" and "avoid touching your eyes, nose or mouth":

Not a single word was said about the critical CDC recommendation that workers with "any signs of fever and other signs of influenza-like illness...stay home if they are ill."

The memo goes on to tell employees to familiarize themselves with the company's sick leave policy. But as the NLC notes, that policy is the problem.

Wal-Mart has a demerit system that punishes workers who cannot come to work due to illness. Employees who miss a day due to sickness receive a one-point demerit and lose eight hours of wages.

Employees with more than three absences a six-month period face discipline, and a fifth absence -- even for a sick day -- will result in what the company calls "active coaching" by management.

A sixth absence leads to what Wal-Mart calls "Decision Day," when a worker can be either terminated or put on a year-long trial period during which time he or she can be fired for any infraction and cannot be promoted.

The situation is particularly difficult for Wal-Mart workers who are single parents. The NLC reports on an instance in which an employee got a call from her four-year-old's preschool telling her to pick up the child, who had a fever of 103 degrees F. Despite the fact that the employee had already worked for four hours that day, she got a demerit point for leaving and lost her wages for the rest of the day. The report says:

Parents have no choice but to load their children up with Motrin and Dimetap to mask their symptoms so they can go to school.

The NLC is calling on Wal-Mart to immediately end its demerit and wage docking policies.

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re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

That's just un-Christian. Walmart should be ashamed. I'll pray that whoever runs the place doesn't burn in hell, but, honestly, it doesn't seem like anyone that addicted to greed and selfishness has much of a chance.

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You don't like it, stay in high school and get a better job. You're not supposed to raise a family on the starter wages from Wal-Mart! Work there while you're in high school to build a resume, establish a pattern of responsibility and move on.

She was docked for the 4 hours she DIDN'T work. Sounds fair when you are an hourly employee; see, that's how it works, people, the employer pays you by the hour you work--no work hours, no pay. Pretty simple, really.

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I hate Wal-Mart and this article is a great reason not to shop there.

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When will employers with such policies be held to account for their impact on the general public's health? It's sad enough that these people are under-paid, but why do individual citizens need to be put "into the line of fire"? We pay taxes that cover Wal-Mart's employees' health needs already! Why are we now being asked to risk missing work (or worse) just by setting foot in a Wal-Mart--or being infected by someone who just got exposed to the flu/cold at one of their low-cost infection centers? I'm tired of supporting huge corporations that get tax-breaks I can only dream of, when they use those exemptions to attack my own earning potential, just by exposing me to toxic employees. FU Wal-Mart!

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Wal-Mart is a corporation. Because of this, they feel they can set policy on every aspect of an employee's lives. But also because of this, they should be put out of business.

Remember the anti-trust movement? Well, it's time we had an ANTI-CORPORATE MOVEMENT.

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I'm not a big fan of Wal-Mart, and I generally hate point systems, but "Despite the fact that the employee had already worked for four hours that day, she got a demerit point for leaving and lost her wages for the rest of the day." Sound like she worked for four hours and got four hours of pay. Sure I like a generous employer who would pay anyways, but that actually sounds fair.

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

Whole Foods Market has been doing that for years.

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When you leave work, you clock out and you stopped getting paid. Why would Walmart pay their employees if they are not at work?

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I work for a company that is very similar in their punishment for missing a day of work due to personal illness or that of a child.

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wow so much wrong with this article I don't know where to begin first of all. how you describe the point system is totally off, do you even do any real "reporting" anymore? I guess it is so trendy to hate on wal-mart that people will just believe anything!! ok since you don't want to do any real reporting I will let you in on what really happens. you can miss up to 8 days of absence before you can get a "decision day." each time you miss a day of work you are given a occurrence you can get 4 occurrences till you get to a step 2 more and you are at a step 3 after which you will get a d-day of which you get the day off paid. then you have to not miss another day for 6 months till your step 3 falls off. thats right it falls off so in 6 months you can do it all over again, rinse and repeat. but when you take off more then 2 days or more up to 9 days you will only get 1 occurrence. but leave that aside Wal-mart has something called a leave of absence policy where you could take off of work (with a doctors excuse) and not get anything for it, and if you have sick time which we all get (I have well over 100 hours laying around and I am only part time) you will even get paid for it. It is really hard to get fired at wal-mart over anything. you have to be really trying hard to do this. get off your ass and do some real reporting! Did you even talk to anybody in the company or did you just go off and guesstimate on how things work? I guess I should just be happy you know how to use your pose able thumbs, you ever consider a job at fox news?

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Wal-Mart doesn't particularly care if they are being unethical, and in many cases even if they are being illegal. It is actually against the law for a worker who is sick with a stomach bug (as in, vomiting) to be working with food, such as the Wal-Mart deli area. Regardless, employees are forced to work and are threatened with disciplinary action up to and including termination if they leave. ((As a side note, McDonald's is also guilty of this.))

The thing is, unless they are actually "caught" breaking the law, it will continue. 98% of the time, no one CHOOSES to work at a Wal-Mart. They work there out of neccessity, and literally cannot afford to take a stand or press action that could result in lost wages. Most people who work at Wal-Mart are in the lower income brackets and are supporting families. They also tend (TEND!) to be undereducated (which is NOT synonymous with unintelligent, simply a statement of fact), and have few options open to them as career choices.

In April of 2008 my mother had a sudden, unexpected, massive heartattack that very nearly killed her. Immediately after getting the call, I went to my brother's workplace to tell him what had happened. He spoke to his manager and WAS TOLD BY MANAGEMENT that he could leave because of the family emergency. Two days later he was informed of demerits being lodged against him and pay being lost for leaving that day "without reason". Guess where he works? Yup. Wal-Mart.

None of this will change, regardless of who "reccommends" or "calls on" the store to fix their policies...at least not until Wal-Mart is FORCED to be held accountable for their abysmal business and human resources practices.

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Walmart does have ways to make up for lost hours worked. As an associate, you accrue sick hrs and personal hrs which you can use to supplement whatever time is lost by not being at work. The attendance policy is there for a reason. It keeps people from abusing the system and doing what ever they want to do. In the end walmart still has a business to run. I am pretty sure the NLC would gripe just like anyone else if they couldn't get service from their Walmart if some or most were gone b/c of sickness.Just sayin'.

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so shame on walmart for not paying employees when they dont work?????

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The demerits and "Decision Day" policies do seem extreme, and I'm glad they're being reviewed. However, I think it's important to remember that these are not salaried positions we're talking about. If your time card is punched for four hours, you're paid for four. End of story. That will remain the same whether you're at Wal-Mart, or a grocery store, or a coffee shop, or a restaurant, or any other dead-end job. Should we make sure the teenagers at McDonalds are paid for a full shift if they leave half-way through?

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Nothing will Change till an employee dies from the Flu while on shift and the national media will expose their policy in a more aggresive form.

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD EVERYBODY

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Sue Wal-Mart for Criminal negligence and Reckless endangerment.

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Many companies other than Wal-Mart are just as hostile towards sick employees. AT&T uses points too. I once got a half point because I had to go to the bathroom to vomit (because I had to come in sick) and it was counted as an unapproved break. I could have just stayed home for that.

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When the largest retailer in the world does not acknowledge the recommendation by the CDC for higher profits, it's time for a labor union. Wal-Mart's practices are abusive and predatory. Subvert their efforts of labor control and bring labor union material to every store you visit. I do not belong to a union, but I do see the need for the workers to gain some control over their working conditions.

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Wal-mart is only worth $200 billion dollars. Making sure their customers and employees are safe and healthy from swine flu might cost them 1/10 of 1% of their profits this year. It's obviously not worth it to them. That's why I avoid Wal-Mart like the plague.

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I have no problem paying an hourly worker only for actual hours work but the demerit system and possible disciplinary actions for sick days/emergencies is counter productive and morally wrong in my mind.
Then again this is WalMart...they only care about the bottom line.. to hell with conscience and morals!

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

You want to pay absolute bottom dollar for crap from China, this is the world you're going to live in.

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

gross people buy food at wal-mart?

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I love reading comments about 'Get a degree, get a better Job'. I bet 20% of Walmart employees have a degree. Why then would they work for Walmart? You might want to ask them.
As for the 'Point System', I work for a company that uses this system. It's similar to What should I pay for Food or Electricity when I'm short on cash. Do you go to work to get paid or lose your job because your sick? Sometimes life leaves people 'Stuck between a rock and a hard place'. Decisions maybe hard to make and not all career paths lead to success.
One other comment: Without those Low paid jobs, You and I wouldn't have a place to buy our cheap groceries/supplies. Many 'Cheap' stores pay their employees poorly but we keep buying from them, keeping them in business.

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

This is why I run a criminal enterprise.

We may not be legal, but at least we're ethical.

Hey - I gotta deal with people who are too high to come to work, let alone sick, and we still make money.

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

I have a B.S. from a well respected (Big 10) University, and the only Job I could get in this economy was at Walmart. Therefore the suggestion by another poster that the employee should have "gone to college" is irrelevant. While Walmart might be a good "starter job" in the words of that poster i would like to point out that in many cases very well educated and intelligent people can only obtain so called "low class" jobs. So if you are fortunate enough to have a well paying job that treats you well you should thank whatever deity you believe in. Or to quote my grandma (who may have been quoting the bible, not sure--) "therefore go I but for the grace of God."

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According to recent news reports, many employers are now paying sick leave in order to help prevent the spread of H1N1. It's the right thing to, especially for a company such as Walmart. With the economy the way it is Walmart is doing better than ever. I was in a Walmart last year and I had just placed my groceries on the belt when the cashier sneezed into her hand. She wiped her hand with a paper towel and then checked out the order in front of me. I couldn't get my groceries back into my cart fast enough. I reported her, of course and told the manager she shouldn't be at work. Now I understand why she was. But she was just one person. Just think about all the other employees who touched my groceries and who might have been sick and yet at work because of Walmart's policies. YIKES! I try to avoid shopping at Walmart anyway because I disagree with their pay practices and how they affect the local business and local economy. But when I do visit their stores now, I will wear latex gloves and carry Purell.

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Sigh, Please understand this article is NOT complete and is a heavy handed attempt at painting Walmart in a negative light. First and foremost is the use of the word Demerit. To the best of my understanding the words demerit and point are NEVER used in any form within Walmart.

Second, Walmart is a company staffed with PEOPLE that's right people just like you. Real flesh and blood, in addition they have emotions and concerns. I have seen associates sent home with NO negative consequences more than once because they showed up, presented a clear potential risk to both other associates and customers.

Third, as mentioned by a previous poster, the attendance policy is actually VERY generous. As mentioned above it's based on accurances: Miss 1 day=1 absence. Miss 3 days in a row=1 absence. Miss 2 weeks with an approved Leave of absence (the terms are very generous)=1 absence. Plus, if you have any comp time (all full time employees get some each year). You can use them to avoid using an absence.

I could go on and on. However, I will simply suggest the following: If you want to badmouth something that you have your facts straight or if you are going to avoid using accurate information that you at least present your writing in the form of an Opinion piece and not this psuedo-news tripe.

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I agree, get paid for what work you have done, but NEVER consider Walmart a family friedly work environment. And they have NEVER been employee friendly, remember back in the 90's when former employee's sued and won for not being paid for work done. since then, I have not shopped there.

re: Wal-Mart's stingy sick-leave policy may contribute to swine

PHUCC walmart, all they do is shaft their workers and customers while enriching communist china

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There seems to be a huge focus on the, "she got a demerit point for leaving and lost her wages for the rest of the day" line, specifically on the lost wages. I think the point of the line was to illustrate asinine demerit point. The remaining part about the wages serves more to illustrate that she lost out on the event anyway.

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Wow. I love how a member of the religion which coined the phrase "let he without sin cast the first stone" (ie who are you to judge) is not only passing judgment, but doing so without the facts. This article is a biased piece of garbage. I worked for Wal-Mart for seven years (although I haven't for almost a year now) so I am intimately acquainted with the sick policy.

First: Yes, they have a point system. If you call in sick it counts as one point. If you miss subsequent days or have to call in later for the same thing (within a reasonable time period) you don't incur any additional points. That means someone could get so sick that they miss work SIX TIMES in a year before they get into trouble. It is actually very generous compared to most companies' sick policies but still keeps the employees from abusing sick leave.

Second: The "lose eight hours of pay" is extremely misleading and the author should be ashamed of putting this in. Employees at Wal-Mart (with the obvious exception of management) are hourly workers. If they call in sick, they're not going to get paid for the hours they aren't there. Does that really seem wrong to anyone? Besides, they earn a decent amount of sick hours which carry over and build up year to year so that they can take time off for being sick and still get paid. There is even a pool of donated hours that employees who ran out of sick hours can draw from.

Finally: There is a VERY strict policy that if someone says they are too sick to work, they can go home. Sure, they will still gain a "point" and may lose pay if they don't have the sick hours to cover it, but no one is forcing them to come in. The only exception would be if someone abused the sick policy so many times that they are on warning, but then it's their own darn fault. If someone actually got sick that many times in a year, they can get a hold of Human Resources with a doctor's note and work it out with them.

In summary: Wal-Mart's policies are more than fair, this article is horribly biased to the point of outright lying and maybe you should act like a Christian before making comments about others being un-Christian.

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Either you have no idea what effect unions have or you're trolling this board. If it's the first, maybe you should research the cost to employees for being in a union against the potential benefits. Also, remember that no one is forcing anyone to work at Wal-Mart. If it was SO horrible, they wouldn't have any employees. If you're just trolling this thread, bravo!

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Are you kidding? 'un-christian', 'burn in hell'.. Keep your ignorant religious stuff to yourself you backwater moron.

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Bandoni, have you tried laying off the pot?

"Pose able thumbs"? Really?

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It doesn't do any good "calling on" WalMart to do anything. This is where our evil bloated government is supposed to step in to make them change their policies.

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This is very similar to the points system used in call centers and warehouses all across the country.

I am curious why only Walmart is being called out about this? I am not saying it is an okay policy only that the article should address the bigger problem that is is corporations not just Walmart.

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"Respect For The Individual" That is wal-mart policy. or it used to be now it is " The Customer Always Wins" as for "finish high school and get a real job"?? i am an electricain i've been one for better than ten years i work at walmart becuase there is nothing else right now

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Um...I work at Walmart presently as the economy is ass and I've never heard of any demerit system, nor is anyone "penalized" for going home sick that I know of (other than losing the time that one is not working unless you've accrued sick time, etc.) unless it's excessive, and that can be mitigated to some extent by providing proof of illness (doctor's note, etc.) as well. It's entirely possible that the management at that particular store is poor and/or overly stringent, but that's not general policy that I have ever heard of.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of things wrong with WM as a company, and it's certainly not something I'm planning on making a career of, but it sounds to me as if this is on the employees who don't want to lose the hours. There is one thing here though and that is that management should be sending them home if they're that sick.

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If people would stop shopping at Walmart things would get better. Shopping at Walmart is un-American. We need to support our small business people.

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I agree with the fact that Wal-mart is being the bad guy for not paying them after they leave. You punch out you are done getting paid, but to get demerits is just ridiculous!

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Every retailer treats their employees like this. I agree that I should only be paid for the amount of time that I work. However, generally speaking for the retail world, if you are not in a supervisory position or higher, you do not get the "sick"/vacation/personal time to compensate for this. Therefore, you have no choice but to work when ill or lose your job. And heaven forbid you cannot work in order to take care of another. A revolution needs to happen for this entire industry.

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Poor babies... where's the story about EVERY part time job in the country... which most of them are now since that's what's replacing the expensive jobs with benefits and PAID SICK LEAVE. WE'RE ALL GOING TO WORK, SICK OR NOT, because we need the money and to keep our measly jobs, so just accept that you're going to get swine flu.

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Sam Walton would be turning in his grave if he knew his children were doing this.

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Here is the thing for all of you that actually hate Wal Mart. All this story does is show the ignorance of a lot of people. I hate to break the news to you but it is the same for most employers out there. I work for a very large Healthcare company and they have the same policy. We get in trouble if we call off. It is not just Wal Mart that does this.

On another note, look at what Wal Mart has done for this economy. They have helped keep prices low, even with their competition, thus keeping inflation to a minimum. True, they do have the manufacturers of some of their products make the items overseas. Here is a news flash on that one. That Black and Decker tool you buy at Home Depot, they buy it from the same company that is building it overseas, it is not just Wal Mart.

As for the wages, Target pays the same, if not lower than Wal Mart. I don't see anyone crying about Target though. The health benefits have been getting better as of like 3 years ago. I know this because I know people that work there. If you are looking for a career and a a job to raise a family, please look somewhere else. Wal Mart is more of a job for the people that just need a little extra cash, not a career, unless you go in to manaagement.

It all just makes me a little mad that everyone bashes Wal Mart when EVERY other retailer out there is practicing the same things. I will admit that they are not the ideal company to work for, but there are very few of those any more.

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"That's just un-Christian."? What does religion have to do with business aside from a whole lot of nothing?

I think what you mean to say is unethical, to which I would agree.

Also to assume that someone will be burning in hell for this in and of it's self is "un-Christian". The phrase "Judge Not Lest You Be Judged" was meant to apply to situations just like this, where there is a question of morality. Making an assumption of someone's final place of residency is to pass judgment.

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Leave it to Walmart

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The Department of Labor is one more government agency in serious need of reform since it has been defanged and gutted by the Republicans. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with paying an hourly worker only for the hours that they work or for even firing them if they are too unreliable. At the same time an employer shouldn't be allowed to have a sick employee working around food and they shouldn't be allowed to penalize employees when they are really sick since it's an act of nature that's beyond the employee's control.

Unfortunately Wal-Mart takes advantage of our weak labor laws at every turn by doing things like hiring more part-time workers rather than allowing existing employees to become full-time workers because a full-time workers would have greater protections under the law. They also have a long history of taking advantage of illegal workers by paying them sub-standard wages and of blocking employees legal right to unionize, yes, unionization is a legal right of workers in the US IF the workers want to unionize. Workers shouldn't be blocked from this right by their employer nor should they be coerced by a union to create one.

When a company starts gaming the system to avoid our countries laws, Congress needs to step up and fix the laws to give the government regulators (the Labor Department) entrusted with protecting American workers the tools they need. Unfortunately, the Labor Department's mission has been so perverted by partisan politics that it is now more concerned with protecting a businesses profits than it's workers. Time and time again we've seen that when employees are prosperous our whole economy is prosperous but when businesses are made prosperous at the expense of their employees the economy suffers. This is because the rest of us end up picking up the expenses that these greedy companies like Wal-Mart are avoiding. For instance, the rest of us will ultimately pay for the health care of the part time Wal-Mart employees, additionally, the companies we work for will end up paying our sick time when we catch the flu from the Wal-Mart worker that's encouraged to show up to work sick. I also recently read that an inordinately large number of Wal-Mart workers are receiving Food Stamps because their part time job simply doesn't pay enough, the rest of us end up paying for this too. Add to that Wal-Mart's practices that force American companies to move manufacturing jobs to China so their products could be sold more cheaply at Wal-Mart (look at what they did to Rubbermaid) which ended up costing hundreds of Americans their jobs.

We need change, we need a government that represents it's citizens, all of it's citizens, not just the wealthy ones or the poor ones, not just the conservative ones and not just the liberal ones, not just the black ones, the hispanic ones or the white ones, not just the males or the females, not just the Christians, the Muslims or the Atheists, not just the young or the old. It seems like we've lost our way in America and forgotten that we need to protect the rights of the individual, it's not about enforcing the will of the majority or worse yet the majority share holders.

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Biggest world- wide abusers of humans, the environment, and too many issues to list here. Do not shop there. Do not go there. Do not give that awful corporation anymore money. Yah, its cheap, but its CRAP.

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It seems very Christian to me - if they had enough faith they wouldn't get sick in the first place. Since god controls everything he must want them to be sick and must want them to spread his glorious plague that he could eliminate with a snap of his holy fingers if he wanted.

Religion is so ridiculous.

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I work for a very LARGE Healthcare organization in the upper midwest. Our sick day policy is no different. And we are face-to-face with patients on a daily basis. So this issue isn't just limited to Wal-Mart, it's a wide spread issue!

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Get a grip people... I know bashing WalMart is becoming a national past time, but some of you need to check your facts before you jump on the tar and feather bandwagon.

WalMart's policy is that you can call in 3 days in a row that you are scheduled to work, and it counts as 1 absence. You are allowed 3 absences (9 days total) in any 6 month block of time, without any disciplinary action being taken. Once you exceed 3 days in a row that you are scheduled to work (w/o a LOA - see below), or 3 absences within 6 months, then the disciplinary action begins.

If you have personal hours or vacation accrued, you may use either to get paid for the first of the three days you miss, and accrued sick hours for the other two.

If you are unable to work due to illness, for a period longer than 3 consecutive days that you are scheduled, you can request a leave of absence with a doctor's note. Having never requested a LOA I do not know if all requests are automatically approved or not, but if it is, no disciplinary action will be taken. I am also not certain if accrued sick hours can still be used to get paid during a LOA, or if you are required to make a claim against your short-term disability insurance.

I've been at WalMart for nearly 6 years now, and believe me, I have plenty of gripes, but the absentee policy is quite fair to those who don't abuse it.

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You forgot to comment about "decreasing the surplus population"...

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Totally agree. Wal-Mart jobs are not meant to raise a family on. If you wan to provide for your family, get a salaried position.

And if you miss work as an hourly, you shouldn't get paid. Sorry but that's how it works. Otherwise why would you ever come in to work at all? You could be "sick" every single day and get paid for a full 8 hours of work? Yeah right.

I don't shop at Wal-mart b/c I hate the crowds and I hate feeling like I'm in a giant of herd of cattle. It's dirty and the prices aren't as low as people think they are. Shop elsewhere and save yourself the headache.

Down with Wal-Mart!

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I hate to be cynical, but if the government can't be bothered to write legislation to ensure that a handful of financial institutions will never again drag the world economy to the brink of collapse, they're sure as sh*t not going to address fair labor practices at retail stores.

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Did you know that Walmart buys more "Made in the USA" products than any other company in the world? It is not "un-American" to shop there. As for the small business people, it is not Walmart you should blame, it should be every customer that chooses to shop in a Walmart store. It is not Walmart's fault that they can get better prices for the stuff everyone needs. I bet you will be in a Walmart store within the next few weeks getting milk, bread, toilet paper, etc. Just sayin'

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" guess I should just be happy you know how to use your [b]pose able thumbs[/b], you ever consider a job at fox news?"

Well, now we know why you work at Wal-Mart.

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If you strongly believe that it is a stepping stone then you are the one who should be out there looking for work. Walmart may be a resume addition for some people, but to most people right now, it may be a career. And who r you to say that if you don't like it then move on, instead we should be changing these crappy habits. I graduated high school and i have a college degree, however i choose to stay in retail as a career choice. You need to get your priorities straight before you mock others.

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1. The policies are despicable, that goes without saying. This is how international corporations treat their low level grunt employees, and will get worse as we increasingly compete with very low cost nations around the globe and try to keep wages and costs low in the inflationary environment caused by massive borrow, print and spend policies our government has (which ruin the currency, distort the economy, and reduce our economic well being, which includes corporations ruthlessly adopting inhumane policies to keep costs low to remain competitive). 2. This is typical. Privates in the army, McDonald's workers, and Walmart employees tend to be treated poorly because they are low level, low skill workers. Working for a place like Walmart, operating without health insurance, near minimum wage, part time, and accepting that kind of treatment is not done by people with the skills and opportunities for better options. It is a hell of an argument for getting an education, studying hard, developing skills (not everyone is going to be college material, but people can become plumbers, electricians, etc.), because you don't treat high skill people that way. Companies can and do treat low skill, "interchangeable" people that way because there are many low skill people desperate for work, fewer jobs, and that historically has always been a recipe for mean spirited management to create an oppressive environment. 3. Playing devil's advocate, but many (not all) low skill, no education workers often come from (and remain) in the lower social and economic categories, sometimes called "lower class." Absenteeism, unreliability, criminality, etc., tend to be more common amongst the "lower classes" which tend to be the people Wal Mart recruits from (again, if you have skills and an education, you aren't going to be looking to WalMart for employment in all likelihood). In our super legalistic environment, big companies like WalMart come up with cookie cutter, impersonal, often cold hearted policies about attendance to deal with what is often an serious issue (absenteeism) as all kinds of government regulations make managerial discretion towards various employees lawsuit bait. On one hand, employees may take advantage of more liberal policies, claiming a management crack down is (pick one) racist, sexist, ageist, against people with disabilities, or on the other hand, the corporation adopts ruthless, blanket policies that are bureaucratic and impersonal.

So, all I can say is this. If you don't have a great skill set and or education, one that puts you in demand so that if you lost one job several employers would bid to obtain you (meaning that even if you don't always make a pile of money, you always are in demand for regular employment), then get one. You can ALWAYS study on the side, formally and informally (I know of what I speak, having almost completed two degrees, one in history, one in international business, I found the value of two almost degrees in what I wanted to do was almost zero, so I taught myself engineering, then science, then mathematics, and so on, my wife, being a business woman is now completing two degrees, one in chemistry, another in pharmacology and physiology, and is then going to do a Masters in Genetics). Between my IT and engineering skills, and her business and now biomedical education, more and more employment opportunities open. We never stop studying new subjects, even coasting into middle age. Our kids are doubly encouraged (especially the ones being home schooled by us), and our eldest just completed an engineering degree and won a full scholarship for a masters in robotics.

Why is that important? Not to brag, but to illustrate that absent a high skill set, you aren't in demand, you are just another mass commodity that is easily substituted with another mass commodity. Just as companies switch constantly to low cost suppliers and vendors, they just replace one low level line worker with armies of other low cost workers. With the deindustrialization brought about by rotten government economic policies and massive government growth (high taxes, regulation, and costs drive business abroad and make American products less competitive on many levels), all of those lost manufacturing jobs and lost opportunities create many desperate people (who once easily found high pay blue collar work in factories all over the country). Those desperate people are exploited ruthlessly, and often happy to be as it might be the only job available in some places (unless one gets one of the massive amounts of government jobs created, all of which further drain the private economy and our national economy, coming at the expense of the fewer productive people left working in the private sector).

Of necessity, you treat your best people well, because they are crucial, and difficult to impossible to replace. To become one of those best people, have an education or special skill, be reliable, keep upgrading your education (thanks to the Internet, 2nd hand books, ebay, Amazon, Youtube, and other places, more educational material is available free and cheap for a high quality self education than at any point in history). Educate your kids. If you can, home school them. My youngest kids will be taking college courses and likely through their first degrees between ages 16 to 18, with less stress than normal schools (your basic, average home schooler is 4 years ahead of private and state school counterparts by high school, which makes them ready for college courses by 12 to 14, if they are average, faster if they are quite bright, and online college courses and material are easily available, cheap to free).

Write to me at wire less murf at yahoo dot come (no spaces in the front portion of wire less murf), put EDUCATION HELP if you want some free high quality advice as to "how" from one who knows.

The best defense in this screwed up world is to arm your mind and know your economic environment. Like those Jews who left Germany and prospered, they did so despite losing everything because they had skills and educations, which can never be taken from you and go everywhere you do!

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Good for you, Greg. Its good to know the "holier-than-thou" breed still exists and thinks it can guard the gates.

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I hope you are infected with swine flu by a Wal-Mart worker who was too afraid to go home when they were sick.

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We have two Wal-Mart's and a Sam's Club (also owned by Wal-Mart) here in Loveland CO. I refuse to contribute to the Evil Empire and therefore all my money and sales tax go to a town 35 miles south of here. I feel bad that I'm not energizing my own economy but my distain for Wal-Mart is much greater. This is yet one more horrible thing about Wal-Mart that makes me (I guess literally) sick. Everyone should boycott Wal-Mart as much as they possibly can. Do not let them take over America and ruin it more than they already have.

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Perhaps some better grammar and some sources might help people take your criticism of the article a bit more seriously?

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An employee already died from being trampled to death last year on Black Friday, and no one seemed to get all that upset. I don't expect people to get upset about this either.... just a lot of indignant "Well these employees should get REAL jobs" bull.

Sad that we tolerate this.

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Guess you missed the section that talked about demerits in addition to not getting paid? I'm going to stick you next to that sick worker until you also get sick. That's the point.

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"You don't like it, stay in high school and get a better job. You're not supposed to raise a family on the starter wages from Wal-Mart! Work there while you're in high school to build a resume, establish a pattern of responsibility and move on.

She was docked for the 4 hours she DIDN'T work. Sounds fair when you are an hourly employee; see, that's how it works, people, the employer pays you by the hour you work--no work hours, no pay. Pretty simple, really."

You're right, you work 4 hours you get paid 4 hours. BUT some employers actually provide their employees with sick leave, to be used exactly for this reason! These are human beings that work at WalMart, not trained dogs. Actually, we treat our dogs better than WalMart treats its employees. I wouldn't shop there at all, but it's the only department store within 40 miles of me.

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Wow, dude! That is the most illiterate and ridiculous post on any forum that I've seen for a while. Thanks for enlightening us on Walmart's policies - it is quite obvious that your lack of High School education has made you an expert!

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Hey genius, did you also notice the part that says she got a demerit, which means she loses an additional 8 hours of wages?

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THEY DO NOT LOSE ANY PAY! They are just not being paid for hours that they did not work. They are hourly employees. They get paid for all of the hours that they work. If they want salary pay they need to change careers.

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None of this surprises me. I worked for Giant Food in DC for 22 years. We were pretty much forced to work. We didn't get paid if we didn't show up, and if that happened six times within twelve calendar months you were fired. If you wanted to call in sick you had to speak to the store manager who would usually threaten your job (usually indirectly) if you didn't show up. I heard managers curse at people over the phone and demand they come to work even when they were vomiting.

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You know I stayed in high school and college (I have a Bachelors Degree) and I still have to work at a retail chain grocery store.

I can also tell you that in my several years of working retail that I have had many co-workers who also were high school and college graduates. I can even recall around five or so co-workers that had Masters degrees.

Times are tough. Sometimes you have to make a decision between having a job you are waaay overqualified for or not having a job at all. I've even had co-workers that have stayed in retail despite having degrees simply because they prefer to work retail.

Don't assume that a person is working a specific job due to a lack of education or ambition.

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Props to murf on noting that people without skill sets are often times just a commodity. The truth of the Wal Mart situation is that they are a business that is attempting to increase profit margins every year. Set rules are in place to avoid favoritism and people who abuse the system. Agree also with previous post that Wal Mart attracts workers who are more likely to abuse the system. The ethical arguments against the treatment of workers is a concern, however, this article does not reflect the entire scenario. If an employee does not want to work there then let them quit I am betting that at least three more people will apply to fill the empty slot.

To Michigan Guy I must say that going to a big 10 school does not guarantee you a job. I see this more and more in academia, the people who “earn” degrees and have no real intellect or ability to perform. Your choice in a degree is also important. Many degrees become what I call a "would you like fries with that" degree. I have also come from a poor background and now make more per hour than three of my family members combined and I am still working on a doctorate degree... The point is not to gloat but to simply state that I chose a field with more job security and perform well in a professional environment. I just find it difficult to believe that anyone with a college education and marketable skill sets would be applying for anything less than a manager level position at Wal Mart or other retail businesses.

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I don't see anything that is incredibly unreasonable. I'm an engineer, and I get 3 sick days per year. Walmart is allowing 3 sick days every 6 months. They are not "docking" pay, that is illegal. They are just not paying for work not performed. If you're not at work, you don't get paid. If you need to take care of your child, do it, but you don't get paid. Why is that so unreasonable?

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Mike, apparently you didn't actually read the story, because Walmart is NOT "just not paying for work not performed." They have a demerit system that essentially punishes people for not coming into work even when they're sick or have a sick child. That's putting the public at risk.

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This is the way Walmart has done business for years. As a long time (former) employee, this is nothing new. Ever since Mr. Sam died, Walmart has been transforming itself into every other corporation in America, while publicly touting "family values."

This story is not news, it's just the same old thing rehashed with the "swine flu" angle.

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I have hated WalMart for years, but at times I do still shop there. I avoid it, but sometimes I need grocery items and other things that aren't available at the grocery store. They just have EVERYTHING and getting it all in one stop saves time and money, but I dislike that store intensely, and try very hard to avoid trips to WalMart.

Anyone who expects to get paid when they are not at work, and are not salaried is fooling themselves! That's just not realistic. However, I do think giving employees demerits for sick days is extreme. It's not like you can completely avoid catching an illness, so why should they be punished for it? Bad on WalMart, for sure, and I hope the NLC makes them revise that policy.

I am responding in part because I don't understand why people with a degree really can't get a better job than WalMart. I am a person with an 11th grade education and a GED and I work as an Executive Assistant in an office, Mon-Fri, 8:30-5:30. I don't have to work at WalMart, even "in this economy". I would think that there are other options available to someone with a degree, short of working nights and weekends at WalMart. You could work in a Call Center, which can be days, and probably pays a bit better. There are also other retail chains that I'm sure pay better, have a bit more prestige, and aren't open 24/7/364. I don't get it......

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This is why I dont shop at Walmart. I'm not a religious person, but Walmart is the Devil. Sure they have your cheap prices, But they do not take care of their employees, and they couldn't give a rats ass about their customers, because they know you will just keep coming back to them. Soon you wont have anywhere else to go, because they put the good stores out of business.

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I know first hand of this policy. I use to work at wal mart and became so sick that I could barely stand. They told me that if i went home that would count against me. The next day i went to the doctor cause i was off and he gave me an excuse that i could not return to work for 5 days because i had the flu and pink eye. i brought he note and everything, yet it still as counted against me.

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For those that live is the Midwest America, Meijer has the same policy. They have a demerit system for Cashiers who don't scan enough items per minute and if they gain too much demerits, they will get fired. So cashiers don't talk to the customers because they're sweating bullets trying to scan as many items as fast as they can. If a customer gets pissed off that they're not talking to them and complain to Management, that's another demerit point to the cashiers. So it's damn if they do and damn if they don't.

Same goes for stockers, if they don't get the items out on the sales floor in a timely fashion, they'll get demerited as well and if too much, face termination of employment.

Another thing that ticks me off is the "Customer is always right" policy. I disagree with that policy because a customer is not ALWAYS right. What if a customer comes to the counter and demands a discount or wants it for free because they quote that policy? Pretty stupid if you asked me. It also costs alot of employees their jobs because of that policy, no matter how well they do their work.

Companies like Walmart and Meijer always put the dollar above the employees and they love firing employees which means a savings of labor and benefits. It's cheaper to hire at the bottom rate, but when it comes to raises and benefits, they rather look for excuses to fire them rather than give them a raise and benefits.

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I used to be a manager for Wal-Mart. Sure, there were some unfortuante situations, but 999 times out of 1000 the person that got "fired" for being sick had already burned themselves with previous absences that were bogus. Don't want to be paid hourly??? Go to school and get a job that isn't intended for high school and college kids. I am sick of people saying this crap is always Wal Mart's fault...when does the responsibility lie with the worker? If you abuse your sick time you don't deserve it.

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It is a shame that corporations have to have sick leave policies at all. It is the people who have done this to themselves by abusing time off.

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you really should go back to school and improve your reading skills. She worked 4 hours, but was docked for 8.

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Not everyone gets life handed to them on a silver platter.

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Perfect... good thing we don't shop at MexicoMart.

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Is this really news? Jobs do this everywhere! Not just Walmart! Unless you work in an office most people do not get 'sick time' or absences. Actually Walmart's policy is more lenient than other businesses I have seen.

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You drive 35 miles away because there are Walmarts in town? Are the two Safeways and the two King Soopers in town part of the 'evil empire' as well? Are all corporations part of said 'empire?' Good luck finding some place to shop that isn't interested in making money...
Why is it that people are so mad at Walmart for making money, employing people and allowing people to buy affordable products?

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There is nothing christian about Wal-Mart

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"I guess I should just be happy you know how to use your pose able thumbs, you ever consider a job at fox news?"

Pose able thumbs....wow, you really do work at Walmart.

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well, religion doesnt matter bud, but its not cool nonetheless..but thanks for bringin in the level of christian goodness into the convo. lol

it has nothing to do with religion, moreso about business practices, morals, and common sense

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You know, even if you graduate from High School, not everyone has the option of having someone else pay for their higher education. Some of us have to better ourselves by working horrible jobs. People like you make it even worse for us by looking down your nose and acting superior.

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it's not just the cashiers spreading germs. every person in there is coughing and sneezing and touching carts, merchandise, registers, etc. thats the risk you take when you go out in public. come to think of it, thats a risk you take by staying at home too. hmmm. guess we're just all out of luck.

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I worked in the Wal-Mart in Milledgeville, Georgia, for roughly five months, and when I had an onset of irritable bowel syndrome, the management wouldn't let me file the paperwork for extended sick leave, and a month after the initial onset they fired me for neglect of the workplace. I have well-documented proof from several doctors that I was physically incapacitated for two months, and I not only lost my job, I also lost my apartment, my college education, and my girlfriend. Wal-Mart isn't a bad place to work, but when the higher-ups truly do not care about their workers, something is terribly wrong.

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Anonymous said: you really should go back to school and improve your reading skills. She worked 4 hours, but was docked for 8.

A swing & a miss. Try again, but this time try cutting & pasting from the article if you're trying to prove a point based on the article. What it actually says is:

"Despite the fact that the employee had already worked for four hours that day, she got a demerit point for leaving and lost her wages for the rest of the day."

So, she worked four hours and didn't get paid for the rest of the day - you know, that part of the day during which she wasn't working. Get it?

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they meant that she lost the wages for the hours she worked too

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How about the NLC and/or CDC cutting some checks to Walmart and other businesses, or directly to the employees to finance their little unfunded mandate?

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I'm feeling alot of hostility toward Walmart, but I think alot of you are getting one sided info.. I work for a Health Care Facility that see's so many people wanting work excuses that it bogs the whole dept. down. I am happy to give excuses to our sick patients (and do so very generously), but the majority I see are not sick. I'm talking about people who are talking and laughing in rooms with no signs of sickness, and we see alot of people regularly for the same. Many times I even hear honest admissions: "I got drunk last night", "I stayed up late, "Just don't feel like going in today", etc.... Work places with stricter policies "weed out" this type of behaviour, and I can tell most of you honest people have no idea how often this occurs. Now with all that said, nothing worse than the really sick needing time off to get well (or prevent other from getting sick) and having to pay the price for the lazy and unmotivated.

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Anonymous said "they meant that she lost the wages for the hours she worked too"

Yes, I understand that's what they meant. I'm saying that they are wrong. It would be a violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act to "dock" or take back wages for hours that have already been worked. The Dept of Labor would be on them immediately if they did this. Walmart would never be that be stupid, and no employee would put up with it.

I can see where someone might misread this poorly written article to think that, but if you read it carefully, you'll see that this is not the case. They only hours they are losing are hours that they would have worked if they hadn't been sick. In other words, they are not being paid for hours they pallned to work, but didn't work due to illness.

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Until our federal government stops coddling these big corporations, they will continue to do things like this. Walmart isn't alone in this, EVERY CORPORATION I have ever worked for had policies nearly as stringent. FMLA and (in our state, WA, a family leave for sick kids/spouses) are supposed to protect employees from this...but if you've ever been an employee who has faced having to use FMLA you know you aren't as 'protected' as the law claims you are supposed to be. If these employers want to continue to put greed above public safety, I say it's high time they paid for it...how about a $200,000 fine PER EMPLOYEE? It's time greedy corporate America catches up to Europe, who actually pays their sick employees to stay home until they are released back to work by a doctor the employer paid for, because European companies realize long term wealth is only derived from a healthy, happy and PRODUCTIVE work force. Big business has destroyed the American dream and way of life, and it's high time they paid for it with their ill gotten gains.

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I spent 6 years in college and I'm now an RPh. I cannot leave work without shutting down the pharmacy. If my child is sick, the same rules apply to me. How's that for your stupid comment.

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@ Murf

Either your a CEO masquerading as a common worker or you are just plain ignorant!

I have a college education and have worked in very high skill paying jobs for some of the biggest companies in the world...and guess what? Our 'sick' policies were identical or even more stringent than Walmart employees. We were told we were paid higher wages and therefore demanded more stringent expectations.

This is a corporate problem whether you are an entry level employee or middle management. WAKE UP!

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love it. so true!

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Walmart needs to hire mexicans.

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I actually work in a hospital in Dallas. We have been told not to come in sick. We get verbal counselling if we call in sick or otherwise 3 times in 6 months. We do accumulate points and can be terminated with 12 points in 12 months. We cannot dip into our sick day bank until after 2 days of illness. So I don't think the Wal-Mart policy is any more stringent than other businesses.

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The one thing not mentioned is if you are sick with any illness, including the Swine Flu, you can request a Leave of Absence. If approved, the time missed due to illness does not count against you. This is federal law- FMLA - Family Medical Leave Act.

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Wal mart's sick leave policy is bad. Do not support this and take your business elsewhere.

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Your claim is incorrect. You should go back and read this article yourself. It says that you receive a demerit and ig you miss a day of work, meaning a whole day, you lose eight hours of pay. In a DIFFERENT section it stated that she had worked for four hours and did not receive pay for the remaining four because she had to leave. You may want to actually read the article before spouting off at others. It makes you look retarded and uneducated.

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Yeah, I've been working at walmart parttime for almost 6 months now, i recently came down with the flu and had a doctors note indicating i should not be at work from 11-5 to 11-10. i turned in the note to my personell and they suggested getting an LOA packet, which i did. I gave it to my doctor and they said it would take 3-5 business days to process. so here I am ive currently missed one day of work and idk whether to go back tomorrow with what little of my sickness remains and tough it out, which i will then recieve a written warning for my absences because i also had the flu 2 months ago with a doctors note but no LOA. Or I could wait until the doctors note recommends i go back to work, Tuesday and bring the LOA whenever the doctor gets around to doing it. So basically i will recieve a written warning if i go back to work early but chances are i wont get the LOA form back til the end of next week....then theirs a chance wal-mart may not accept it?

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Yeah, I'm shocked that you're an engineer. You're probably also a Libertardian.

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walmart pays me good and I am thankful for my job, they have never cheated me or told me i could not go home when i was sick
i turn in my sick time or vacation or personal time when i am unable to work, no i am not a manager, just a sales associate i do see things wrong like cutting hours for long time associates and hiring new associates but over all i am happy working for walmart if i have to work at age 62.

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Jeeves...so much effluent, so little time.

This whole working sick issue will be moot, before long. Walmart is actively forcing employees out of the company. Why? Because the new vision of Walmart is to have their brick and mortar stores run on skeleton crews. Very few employees during the day to help customers. Have you been in stores lately and noticed a ghost town? If you haven't, the bleeding hasn't reached you yet.

The grand plan is to have customers roam the stores for their merchandise, with no help from employees (remember, they are not there, they've lost their jobs). The customers will then take their carts to RFID checkouts, which will scan the whole cart automatically, and then they will pay. No live checkout employees to cuss-out or harrass, if things don't go according to plan.

If this grand scheme doesn't quite work the way it is intended, there is always the international expansion into India and other world markets to cushion the stateside slide into oblivion!

To hear their International division talk of their prowess, you get the impression that many there are suffering from delusions of grandeur. Talk of their International division being the Messiah, Walmart's Savior, when the stateside operations collapse, is a bit premature.

Brick and Mortar stores Walmart has stateside will not generate enough revenue to satisfy the bean-counters unless two inevitable truths are followed; get rid of employees, and automate the customer experience from the time they enter stores, through checkout and payment.

Am I the only one who has noticed the billions they are spending on ad campaigns, store remodels, and generous pats on the back because of the so-called "green" operations?

The problem Walmart has now, is the same one most major corporations have; new blood at the top, whom have no idea how to effectively run a huge corporation, because they are so far removed from reality.

Open your eyes. Get the big picture. Shoddy treatment of store-level employees is but the tip of the iceberg.

It is the same at ALL major corporations. Welcome to the great new world of greed.

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I work part-time at WM. I don't get any sick time but do get some personal time which I can take if I have to call in sick which generally is only maybe one day a year. However, the part people are missing is that if someone doesn't have sick time or personal leave built up (and part-time associates don't get sick hours at all) then the associate has no way to get paid for the time off. The company doesn't allow vacation time to be taken for a sick day which I think is flat out wrong. That's part of the screwed up system with WM. The points system just makes it all the more stressful. W-Mart has changed greatly in the last 15 years & not for the better. They have gone to a scorecard system of scheduling which has generally screwed people out of work hours by having shifts that most part-time people could not work if they have a day job (many part-timers in our store work full-time jobs elsewhere). But, even those who have open availability who don't have other jobs & have been with the company many years are getting their hours cut. This is NOVEMBER and the work hours should be up...they're not. I used to work 20-22 hours per week. Now, every other week I get 17 hours. I will survive because I have a day job but I told a manager tonight that if I were full-time and got the cuts that they are giving, I could not survive. I also told her that it is extremely insulting to see the company continually hire NEW part-timers while cutting existing associates' work schedules. Many believe it's to get long-time associates to quit. I'm thinking that more and more and my current work schedule seems to prove it. W-Mart makes money when many other companies do not. It will survive and take down any competitors in the process, so the cuts in work hours, the demerits in missing work are all part of the W-Mart corporate greed that gets worse each year.

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Well well. The very staple and prime directives Walmart has used (customer service, and satisfaction) are soon to be put to bed.

You know, this could mean that the mom and pop stores walmart put out of business, may make a comeback using what THEY were years ago...customer service and satisfaction.

Given enough time, history repeats itself. The largest retailer in the world, destroying itself from within. Who knew?

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Anonymous said: Your claim is incorrect. You should go back and read this article yourself. It says that you receive a demerit and ig you miss a day of work, meaning a whole day, you lose eight hours of pay. In a DIFFERENT section it stated that she had worked for four hours and did not receive pay for the remaining four because she had to leave. You may want to actually read the article before spouting off at others. It makes you look retarded and uneducated.,/i>

You are still wrong. It says if you miss a day of work, you lose 8 hours of pay. It means that you lose the 8 hours you didn't work. By Federal (and probably state law as well) they CANNOT deduct pay for time already worked. Let me repeat this, since you seem be having trouble grasping the concept - an employer CANNOT deduct pay for hours already worked. These people are only losing pay for hours they PLANNED to work, but did not work due to their own illness. Yes, they get the demerit points, but that's all they are - points. Just because they get points doesn't mean the employer can punish them by taking away pay. That practice, if anyone were even dumb enought to try it, is clearly illegal.

Also, you don't make yourself appear any smarter with the ad-hominem attacks. I'm not "spouting off", I'm stating the facts and the law, and relying on a one-sided article as my source of information. Just because you (mis)read something on the internet doesn't mean that it is correct. This article was written in such a way as to mislead people and inflame the disdain many people already feels towards Walmart. If you believe that Walmart is actually taking away pay for hours already worked, then the author is successful.

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Of course Walmart is trashing their knowledgeable, long-term employees. They don't want to pay full-time employee benefits, such as medical insurance, and other government mandated benefits.

They want nothing but part-time kids working for them. Seems to be working.

The hours reduction for full-time employees has been going on for quite some time. Cut hours here, there...scramble schedules so there are no "set" hours to work. Tough if you need to pick-up kids. Tough if you need to go to the doctor, except on your lunch hour. Tough if you have a contagious illness...come in or we'll punish you. Who cares if you make others sick? We're Walmart, and we may do whatever the hell we want to, because we can...at least until class action lawsuits start arriving dozens-a-day. Arbitrary, and pathetic.

Used to be Walmart touted themselves as an employer whom cared for family, honor, and respect. Long-term employees were cherished because of their knowledge and service to the retail giant. No more. The new generation of corporate wonks seem content to spout (spew?) the old school mantra, which everyone pretty much considers as corporate double-speak, in light of what is happening.

Remember the corporate raiders of the 80s? Neither do many of corporate's home office personnel...they were still in diapers.

Long-term corporate and store-level employees are leaving the company in droves, while their 401Ks and benefits are at least somewhat intact. Could be gone tomorrow, just like anyone who works for them, is surely worried about.

This is the way of trying to keep stockholders happy. I hope they make some informed decisions about what is really happening, instead of listening to wind-up dolls and mannequins controlled by puppet strings at the shareholders' meetings.

I've already made my decision. My portfolio already has one less investment.

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Seriously? If you miss more than 1 day a month, you don't deserve the job. I'm so sick of hearing single mom this, single mom that. I am a single dad. I work full time. I go to school part time. I just had pnuemonia. I didn't miss more than 3 days of work/school. Grow up.

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It also fails to mention that Walmart does not recognize a doctors note as a legitimate reason to miss work. So if you have the flu, pnuemonia, or many other highly contagious diseases you still have to show up to work. And yes, as a walmart associate I have seen this many times. That is my biggest problem with walmarts absentee policy. Yes you should try to be at work as much as possible, but if your doctor tells you to stay home then walmart needs to recognize that you should should probably do so. Especially since I have yet to see a mamber of management with a medical degree to override a doctors note.

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This policy is over the top . . . I have shopped for that last time at Walmart and I will do everything I can to to discourage ohter from shopping in the future at Walmart . . .I am one of their customers no more . . .what an asshole company

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What about their new policy of not giving employees legal tender (checks) that they may cash? If they are poor enough to not have a bank account for direct deposit of their wages, they will be given...wait for it...wait for it...A WALMART SHOPPING CARD with their pay on it!

Can you imagine how much interest Walmart will make on those "shopping cards" because employees cannot cash-out the cards immediately? Wow!

The official word from Walmart is, this will save millions in printing, paper, and administration costs!

NO mention of the millions they will make in interest! Imagine that!

Everything mentioned in this whole thread is but a miniscule dot on a page, when it comes to the sleazy ways walmart is finding to cut their expenditures, in a bleak economic environment.

It's dog-eat-dog, or dog eat employees at the big WM!

What's that website? Wakeup Walmart?

Wakeup employees! You're gettin' the green weenie!

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Liar!

Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the nation's largest private employer, is eliminating paper payroll checks in the U.S., transferring workers' earnings to a debit card if they decline direct deposit to a bank.

Wal-Mart is the biggest company yet to make the move that it said will save paper and money. It estimates the move will save 257,572 pounds of paper a year. It declined to specify the savings but said the shift will reduce its payroll costs.

Government agencies such as the Social Security Administration have recently begun using similar cards to dispense payments to benefit recipients.

Some Wal-Mart workers last month received earnings electronically in the form of credit to a MasterCard Inc. debit card. The program will roll out nationally this month, though many of Wal-Mart's 1.4 million U.S. workers will continue to receive paper checks for months while it is fully implemented. About half of its U.S. workers now receive paper checks.

Though the debit cards save companies money by reducing payroll costs, consumer advocates have criticized some card programs, noting that workers are often charged fees to access their money or even check balances.

MasterCard, however, said First Data Corp., which will process the transactions, agreed with Wal-Mart to offer some of the lowest fees available among such cards, and noted that many workers already pay fees for cashing checks. It said employees' first ATM transaction a pay period is free; subsequent ones cost $2 each.

Laura Kelly, senior vice president of global prepaid cards at MasterCard, said the arrangement benefits both companies and workers, who "won't have to go to stores to pick up their paychecks anymore."

Workers will be able to use the cards wherever debit cards are accepted, including at ATMs, and will be able to withdraw cash without fees at Wal-Mart and Sam's club registers.

In addition, Wal-Mart workers can receive checkbooks that they can use to write checks on their debit accounts to baby sitters and others who don't accept MasterCard. The workers will still be able to access electronic pay stubs if needed.

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Walmart associates may receive their pay either by direct deposit or through the First Data Money Network program and may access their wages through the Money Network MasterCard Paycard or Money Network Checks. The program will provide a more flexible way for associates to get immediate access to their full wages on payday even during natural disasters such as blizzards, hurricanes and floods. Associates will not need to come in on their day off or while on vacation to receive their pay, and they will have the convenience of receiving cash fee-free at any Walmart or Sam's Club register. The program will be introduced to all U.S. associates in September.

"We have worked closely with Walmart and First Data to develop a customized program that will simplify the payroll process and support environmental sustainability," said Chris McWilton, president of U.S. markets for MasterCard Worldwide. "We are excited that we are able to support Walmart's vision for truly responsible and sustainable business operations by providing Walmart and Sam's Club associates with the benefits of immediacy, security, simplicity and efficiency offered by paperless wages."

MasterCard will be the exclusive brand for the card, which can be used anywhere Debit MasterCard is accepted, including ATMs.

Let's see now - immediate access to full pay on payday - check!
The card is accepted anywhere MasterCard is accepted - check!
No check cashing fees like with paper checks - check!
Can get full pay right at the store without having to make an additional trip, and without paying a feee - check!
Reduces expenses thus allowing Walmart a further competitive edge and preserving jobs for their associates - check!
Good for the environment - check!
Terminated employees receive their full final pay immediately, thus putting WM in compliance with certain state laws requiring immediate pay - check!
Employees without checking accounts can pay their bills over the phone using the card, thus avoiding high fees from check service agencies, and they don't have to leave the house - check!

Tell me again why this is a bad idea? I hope my company does it!

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MasterCard will be the exclusive brand for the card, which can be used anywhere Debit MasterCard is accepted, including ATMs.

"Walmart is raising the bar for employers everywhere by providing associates who don't have bank accounts with immediate access to funds on payday, without fee or discount, and access to cash at thousands of locations across the country," said Ed Labry, president of retail and alliance services for First Data. "Associates may also write Money Network Checks payable to themselves or use them to pay bills, just like any other check." Associate funds in the Money Network program are FDIC-insured.

So, those people who cannot get a checking account will now have a way to pay their bills by check? What a great service for those "poor enough" not to be able to get an account!

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The posting about the Walmart Shopping Card in lieu of a paycheck is incorrect. They are being offered the option of either direct deposit or a pay card, which can be cashed out in full on payday at Walmart or used elsewhere, inlcuding bill pay online or over the phone. It also includes the ability for WM workers without checking accounts to pay their own bills by checks drawn against the card account. Overall it seems like a win for both WM and their employees who cannot get checking accounts at a bank.

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For the record, I'd like to say, Fark You. I'm a college graduate, in the top 15% of my class, and wal-mart is the best I can do right now. Almost no one else is hiring without several years of experience in that industry, even for entry level jobs. As someone who has problems shaking off the flu, even with the vaccine, this is a very frightening thing.

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I for one also possess a BA degree. What is funny I am not alone as I took on a part time job that is flexible that I can be home to get my kids on and off the bus. Walmart offers that for me for the time being, discounts and 4 bonuses a year is quite nice too. I didn't want to have to use any daycare to care for my children ever. The funny thing is..ask the child car workers and they have the same policy as far as absenteeism. You will laugh and they are the ones surrounded by kids with runny noses.

Stay healthy my fellow Walmart Associate family!

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demerit AND point are terms thrown around Mayfield, Ohio's Walmart every moment of every day. I worked in this hole for a while, until i had PINKEYE and was given a POINT for LEAVING EARLY with a highly infectious eye infection.

Get YOUR facts straight. Walmart does nothing but try and keep their employees down and out - because when they do that, getting a paycheck from Walmart means a whole lot more.

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I am 58 years of age and worked for three months at walmart in Orillia Ont. and that was quite enough for me. I moved back to toronto and got back into the construction trade. The pay at walmart was low but better than collecting welfare. The really annoying thing was how they ran their workers into the ground. Also i broke my finger one night down near the base of the nail and the supervisor said because i could move the finger it probably wasn't broke and there was no sense in going to the hospital so i finished off the night the best i could. The next evening i went straight to the hospital where an x ray showed a clear break of my finger. they set up so called light duties for me. Eventually i had enough of them running me ragged each night and i left for greener pastures. It's too bad the workers wouldn't stand up to walmart and try to form unions. I understand in quebec walmart pulled up shop and moved out when the workers tried to form a union there but if they continued to do that maybe some of the smaller retailers could make a living and hire and treat workers with some respect and dignity.

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greg, walmart dosnt hire highschoolers, you have to be 18 or they wont even look at your resume

the reason is u have to be 18 to use the bailer (cardboard crushing machine)

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You were lucky to have something to go back to. I am 61 and a part time employee. I brought in a sick note from my doc and was asked why I did because they have a sick policy so the note didn't mean anything to them. (So I said throw it away if you like). You see, I do have a "Walmart file" that contains EVERYTHING I have from WM. Good and bad. Last year I had the flu, went to work, was asked by a manager what was wrong with me and I replied "I'm sick as hell", then was told to go to register 13 (a busier register) for the day. They do not care if you are sick, and you ARE penalized if you leave early, meaning possible termination even for someone who rarely gets sick. I have worked for over 40 years and this is one of the worst employers I have ever worked for, and yes I have attened college, but Iam single, lost a good paying job, lost my home, lost everything, and all I can find is Walmart for my food and meds.My doc wanted me on FMLA, but because of the req'd 2500 hrs worked (I'm part time remember) I was short about 200 hrs. and was denied. I even have illegal docs in the file, and they don't keep their own policy rules. I wish there was something for me to go back to I have a wonderful resume, but it's cheaper for companies to hire an 18 yr. old. I don't even get a chance. What was the phrase about "Golden Years"? I think I've hit the shit years instead. I know Sam Walton is round from turning over in his grave, this is not his company anymore. Get rid of good employees is their motto. Family company? Is that why they are open on Holidays??????? I feel no guilt in speading my colds and other illnesses any more, they don't why should I? I don't get sick time because I am part time, they no longer hire or advance to full time at my store, and if you bring in a disability form you are marked for "to be fired" in any way they can do it. But the prices are low, aren't they? Guess who makes them so low, we employees of course. Company spokepeople have admitted county benefits are cheaper for most employees, so who pay for that? I'll stop now because unless you are an employee you can't understand how terrible they treat us. One employee is going blind because they refused her doc request. Hope they find WM atleast guilty of half of the 47 charges her attorney has filed against them. What is your sight worth to you? Your health or life? Gotta be there to understand.

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Its true im a Walmart associate who is at home now sick with the flu because five other associates who work in my department have it and of course i caught it from them it started with one person and spread as it usually does none of these associates were allowed to leave early or take the days off needed to heal. Some because they couldnt afford to miss the day, they had no accumalated sick time or personal time, two were new associates and were still on their 90 day "probation" and couldnt miss any day due to the risk of termination or coaching. They were forced to work with fevers and cold sweats vomiting etc. While working at walmart i have been ill more times than with any other employer i have worked for, i see sick employees all the time having to work because of the unfairness of walmarts policy. Walmart doesnt even accept a DOCTORS EXCUSE as a valid reason to miss work your absence is still unexcused and your still givin a demerit.

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Great job you just called over one million people idiots and losers.

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ok no you can miss three days in one occurance anything over that and you have to take a leave and it has to be approved by a doctor and your D DAY LAST FOR ONE YEAR if you miss any day within that year you can and will be terminated sayin neither you or you family kids or whatever better not get sick hurt or hospitalized within that year and yeah doctors cost money and yeah so does walmarts insurance try affording that as a single parent raising three kids on walmarts insurance thats three hundred dollars a pay period and no you cant take eight days in a row off cuz your sick and get away with it walmart can terminate you at any time for any reason especially attendance. Give you an example a woman i work with already missed her alloted days and had a d day given to her she missed her days cuz she had a hard time gettin to work most days she walked with her cain cuz she was crippled to work, she was hospitalized and unable to call in when she returned to work they informed her she was terminated she died the next day. Management was fully aware of her situation.

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even if you have sick hours you cant use them to cover the hours you missed if you leave early it has to be personal time and the writer was saying why cant you use your sick time to cover the first day you miss why does it start on the second day and yeah if you dont have any personal or vacation time you lose eight hours its like that to deterr people from calling in

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maybe people are working there cuz they have no other choice remember people work out of necessity

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well there is a point system 1 tardy or incomplete shift= 1 point 3 points= 1 abscence tardy= fifteen minutes incomplete shift= four hours of total shift worked anything less than four hours= an abscence

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WalMart is no different than any other retailer. Meijer has a similar policy. No absense is excused. If we call in sick we receive points and a verbal coaching. No one has sick pay, not even full-timers and we can't use personal time or vacation time because those have to be requested 2 weeks in advance. How many of us can predict 2 weeks in advance when we are going to be sick?

I called in because of a family emergency one day and was written up by my manager because it was the 6th day I'd missed that year. (I had pneumonia earlier in the year and was off for a week with a doctor's note.) I was told to put in a request if I need time off for an emergency. My response to that was, "I don't schedule emergencies. I know of no one who does."

Lets face it. Retail is hell. Whether it's WalMart, Meijer, K-Mart...it's all hell. And unfortunately, I'm living it.

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half the people who comment this do not know anything unless they work there. the fact that walmart does not understand about there are emergencys. Three in six month is not enough. no one cares if they do not get pay for the hours they do not. the workers cares about losing there job or not, about getting a coaching or fired. i work there, i seen people got fired for just calling in because he had to take his dad to the hospital. The FACT THAT MANAGEMENT ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT PEOPLE HAVE UNEXPECTED EMERGENCY'S!

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Here's one for you, my husband just got a "decision day" for having his cell phone open in the warehouse. NOTE: He was not even clocked in for work at this point. He was not given any warnings just a "decision day" for this. Now correct me if I am wrong but until you clock-in to work this should still be your own time...no rules should even apply unless you are on the clock. Well that is not how Wal-Mart sees it. This is not right at all. He has worked there for 19 years and never had anything like this happen. This makes no sense to me.

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ha! this sounds about rite. I work in the back room so no one cares if I'm hacking my brains out. I was holding down the counter before we started to unload a truck and a manager comes and tells me to throw it the day i come down with flu symptoms. i told them i was sick and not to expect any miracles. need less to say i took to long on the truck and i was coached, twice. they took the time to put in a verbal for back talk when i told them i was sick and the coaching for taking to long on the truck because they are "cracking down on the scorecard" for the backroom.

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WalMart is doing it to themselves. Sears fell, K-Mart fell, Hill's fell, so on and so on. What WalMart doesn't understand is that their first line of good publicity are their employees. When their employees are being burned and treated as if they are disposable, then those same employees not only tell their family and friends, but they also take to the blogs and tell the world: DON'T SHOP AT WALMART!!

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it is bad the way wal mart does their employees... u can not have a family and work there they always make you chose between family and your job... need a job to care for family but a kid needs his mom when it is sick to and they do not care bout any of that because wm employees are so easy to replace... they only care about making money and thats it... they say their a family but i dont know any family who would fire so easy

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I was once told by a very wise man. " Company Rules are not made to protect you but are there to fire you by". The lady that got a demerit after a half a days work is what I'm talking about. I understand the no pay but not the demerit thing. She could have 4 hrs. personal added to her check for a full days pay I would think. But then again this is Walmart we are talking about. Making people work sick is just sick in it self.

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i worked for sams club almost 4 years .i had to get the prepaid card.i went to walwart to get my money off my card. they gave me my money i left. over a month later i was called to the offici was told they made a mistake and add money to my card and gave me money. i told them i didn't know what they were talk about they said yes i do and i need to go talk them asap.i said which one they said the last one i was at.i told last pay peroid i got my money out of atm there at work. she said were ever i have cash my check at walmarts.
i have 3 walmarts in a 15 miles area.1 one i went to did know anything about it but wouldn't say to me no it was them after calling my work and 5 hours later they said it must be one of the other 2.went home my car broke down hurt my back the next day my mother inlaw slip in a coma
they gave her two weeks two live. down in the back and her dying i did get up there fast like they want.they fired me over it after the same day i did.i had vac.time i could have taken and plenty of sick hours and personai time .they will not pay me and i owe this walmart over a 1000.00 dollars. my mother inlaw died last .after we put her to rest to day.sams club sent over some food today about 120.00 dollars worth.straight up they know they srewed me over.can anybody out there help me with these let me know?????super dave

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wow! WISH I KNEW YOU WHEN MY HUBBY HAD HIS KIDNEY STONES! wE NEVER HEARD OF ACCUMULATING SICK LEAVE DAYS FOR PART TIMERS. i GUESS IT IS SILLY TO ASSUME ALL STORES FOLLOW THE SAME POLICY. mY HUSBAND WAS NOT PAID OVERTIME..THEY JUST SAY COME IN LATER THE NEXT DAY. i WENT ONLINE TO TRACK LAWSUITS AND FOUND MANY OF THE THINGS MY HUSBAND EXPERIENCED WERE SUCCESSFULLY LITIGATED AS LEGITIMATE ISSUES WITH WALMART. i KNOW FOR A FACT SOME WALMARTS WATCH HOW MANY TIMES YOU EVEN GO TO THE BATHROOM. sO, PERHAPS YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE INVESTIGATING YOURSELF BECAUSE MANY DO NOT HAVE YOUR PLEASANT EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!! bY THE WAY THEY LIED TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE SAYING HE NEVER CALLED IN..WE HAVE THE NUMBER CONFIRMATION TO PROVE HE DID!